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This is what i plan to run. Feel free to leave any kind of feedback. This is my second cycle, i ran before MK-677 and RAD-140, with enclo as PCT.

I will add some images with my current physique once i get the supplements and i will keep you updated.

Starting Stats

• Age: 24
• Height: 5’8.5” (174 cm)
• Weight (Start): 205 lbs (93 kg)
• Goal: Cutting

PED Protocol – Total Duration: 12 Weeks

Weeks 1–12:

• AC-262536: 10 mg/day)
• SLU-PP-332: 200 mcg/day
• GW501516: 5 mg/day
• AOD-9604: 100 mcg/day



Weeks 10–12 (PCT Prep):

• Enclomiphene: 12.5 mg/day (if needed)

Training & Nutrition – Fat Loss Focus

Training Split:

Classic bodybuilder split

Back+biceps
Chest+triceps
Shoulders+traps
Legs (2x/week)

Nutrition:
• Calories: ~2200–2500 kcal/day
• Macros: ~200 g protein / ~200 g carbs / ~70 g fat
• Primary Foods: Chicken, tuna, salmon, beef, egg whites, oats, rice, green veggies

Supplements:
• Whey: 2 scoops/day
• Creatine Monohydrate: 10g/day
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Donvitosharkone
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cataleannnn said:
This is what i plan to run. Feel free to leave any kind of feedback. This is my second cycle, i ran before MK-677 and RAD-140, with enclo as PCT.

I will add some images with my current physique once i get the supplements and i will keep you updated.

Starting Stats

• Age: 24
• Height: 5’8.5” (174 cm)
• Weight (Start): 205 lbs (93 kg)
• Goal: Cutting

PED Protocol – Total Duration: 12 Weeks

Weeks 1–12:

• AC-262536: 10 mg/day)
• SLU-PP-332: 200 mcg/day
• GW501516: 5 mg/day
• AOD-9604: 100 mcg/day



Weeks 10–12 (PCT Prep):

• Enclomiphene: 12.5 mg/day (if needed)

Training & Nutrition – Fat Loss Focus

Training Split:

Classic bodybuilder split

Back+biceps
Chest+triceps
Shoulders+traps
Legs (2x/week)

Nutrition:
• Calories: ~2200–2500 kcal/day
• Macros: ~200 g protein / ~200 g carbs / ~70 g fat
• Primary Foods: Chicken, tuna, salmon, beef, egg whites, oats, rice, green veggies

Supplements:
• Whey: 2 scoops/day
• Creatine Monohydrate: 10g/day
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Thanks for sharing such a detail mate!

what’s your preferred product in that plan and former? And why?

Any more previous try? Testosterone in your plans?
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SalvatoreCorvus
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Hi. That's interesting.

Besides the fact that slu-pp has no hindsight on the potential damage to health 😁

Honestly, I would have used 2iu of HGH rather than AOD. Before fasted cardio. The clinical effect is real compared to AOD.

Also plan to help your liver. A healthy liver will help you in the process of metabolizing fats.

While exploring the mitochondrial pathway, also look for methylene blue and mot-c.
As well as good B complex supplementation (very important for mitochondria)
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Driadashop
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Regarding your previous cycle, I’d like to say...I recommend using enclomiphene during your cycle along with HCG to keep your testosterone levels from dropping to zero. Low testosterone = low estradiol, which can lead to a bunch of issues, from worsening lipid profile to low libido, mood swings, and bone problems.

As for your upcoming cycle, I don’t quite understand what the goal is and why PCT is included.
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cataleannnn
cataleannnn
SalvatoreCorvus said:
Hi. That's interesting.

Besides the fact that slu-pp has no hindsight on the potential damage to health 😁

Honestly, I would have used 2iu of HGH rather than AOD. Before fasted cardio. The clinical effect is real compared to AOD.

Also plan to help your liver. A healthy liver will help you in the process of metabolizing fats.

While exploring the mitochondrial pathway, also look for methylene blue and mot-c.
As well as good B complex supplementation (very important for mitochondria)
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i haven’t read much about mot-c, but i’ll look into it cause lately i’ve been hearing a lot of it. Methylene blue on the other hand, i think i will add it to the stack. Thank you for your input
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cataleannnn
cataleannnn
Driadashop said:
Regarding your previous cycle, I’d like to say...I recommend using enclomiphene during your cycle along with HCG to keep your testosterone levels from dropping to zero. Low testosterone = low estradiol, which can lead to a bunch of issues, from worsening lipid profile to low libido, mood swings, and bone problems.

As for your upcoming cycle, I don’t quite understand what the goal is and why PCT is included.
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Thank you for the answer, i love your products btw, i placed some orders from you and definitely will place some more in the future. Regarding the pct, i listed it there just in case. I will do some more research about enclomiphene and decide if i should add it during the cycle or not.
cataleannnn
cataleannnn
Donvitosharkone said:
Thanks for sharing such a detail mate!

what’s your preferred product in that plan and former? And why?

Any more previous try? Testosterone in your plans?
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I plan to take testosterone E in the next bulking cycle, and after that, run some blood tests to see what i should add more.
Driadashop
Driadashop Admin
cataleannnn said:
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Thank you for the answer, i love your products btw, i placed some orders from you and definitely will place some more in the future. Regarding the pct, i listed it there just in case. I will do some more research about enclomiphene and decide if i should add it during the cycle or not.
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If you're using steroids and/or SARMs, it will definitely lower your natural testosterone levels. At this point, you become somewhat similar to a person with hypogonadism, just in a milder form, and of course, this will affect your health and well-being.

Many people go this route because they fear injections. Of course, the best way is to use low doses of testosterone, but if someone is afraid of injections, then we need to find other ways to keep testosterone from dropping below reference levels.

To do this, you can use several different strategies: enclomiphene (or clomiphene), HCG, oral testosterone, testosterone gel, or a combination of enclomiphene and HCG.
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dr. Doping
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SalvatoreCorvus said:
Honestly, I would have used 2iu of HGH rather than AOD. Before fasted cardio. The clinical effect is real compared to AOD.
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Note: it should be injected intra muscularly, subcutaneous GH takes too long to hit peak concentration so you'd just be messing up your blood glucose for the day.
Driadashop said:
Regarding your previous cycle, I’d like to say...I recommend using enclomiphene during your cycle along with HCG to keep your testosterone levels from dropping to zero. Low testosterone = low estradiol, which can lead to a bunch of issues, from worsening lipid profile to low libido, mood swings, and bone problems.
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I don't think enclomiphene would do anything IF taken alongside HCG, since enclo blocks estrogen receptors in the brain thus stimulating the release of gonadotropin releasing hormone, which stimulates the release of LH and FSH, the two of which HCG supresses. One or the other (also, enclo isn't the only option, from what I've seen with myself and clients, nolvadey works too). Also low estradiol also reduces your anabolism, since it's a cofactor in the IGF1 release.
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Remarque : il doit être injecté par voie intramusculaire, la GH sous-cutanée prend trop de temps pour atteindre sa concentration maximale, vous ne feriez donc que perturber votre glycémie pour la journée.

Je ne pense pas que l'enclomiphène soit efficace s'il est pris en même temps que l'HCG, car l'enclo bloque les récepteurs d'œstrogènes dans le cerveau, stimulant ainsi la libération de l'hormone de libération des gonadotrophines (GLL), qui stimule à son tour la libération de LH et de FSH, deux substances que l'HCG inhibe. L'un ou l'autre (d'ailleurs, l'enclo n'est pas la seule option ; d'après ce que j'ai constaté chez moi et mes clients, le Nolvadex fonctionne aussi). De plus, un faible taux d'estradiol réduit l'anabolisme, car il est un cofacteur de la libération d'IGF-1.
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Que recommandez-vous à la place de l'enclomifène s'il ne finit pas par prendre de la testostérone injectable ?
dr. Doping
dr. Doping
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Que recommandez-vous à la place de l'enclomifène s'il ne finit pas par prendre de la testostérone injectable ?
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If this is what you said: "What do you recommend instead of enclomifene if he doesn't end up taking injectable testosterone?", then this is my answer: if the cycle consists only of sarms (which I discourage except in the case of a first cycle, injectables perform better in all aspects), then enclomiphene or nolvadex throughout the cycle and during pct work more than well enough. If using injectable steroids, than using HCG alongside is very much recommended to retain testicular function and production of neurosteorids (we don't wan't to be those unhinged roidheads that give the roiders a bad reputation).
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