I was looking into trenbolone, more specifically his effects on the progesterone receptors...
Since i'm soon going to start a cycle i was wondering if i'm better taking nolvadex or raloxifene since they're both potent breast etrogen receptor antagonists, which one is better?
Since i'm soon going to start a cycle i was wondering if i'm better taking nolvadex or raloxifene since they're both potent breast etrogen receptor antagonists, which one is better?
So the main bias for the appearance of gyno is prolactin.
The solution therefore lies in the use of Cabergolin.
Or best of best: DO NOT touch trenbolone
Reactions: Lord TrennerFrom Wikipedia
Tren hex does not have to be injected every two weeks
Tren is progestin and most of the time it is the prolactin that increases, and which accentuates the risk of gyno.
Testosterone is not the worst steroid out there. It's the best thing to do. Just learn to manage some blood parameters and that's it.
Reactions: Deleted member 1146Remember to start low and slow to see how your body reacts. Being it's a 19-nor, you can get a safer health profile with solid gains from NPP (Nandrolone).
Avoid Tren Hex (Parabolan) since it's half life is long and you can't bail. I'd avoid Tren Ace in the beginning too because there isn't a build up to help your body adjust (for what thats worth, since it's harsh). Trenbolone Enanthate 100mg a week for 3 weeks and you should feel how your body is going to respond.
A low does like that will allow you to bail in 14 days. But I would personally recommend NNP. It's Anabolic to Androgenic ratio is very good and is less harsh on the body.
Also consider your age and goals. You can get huge without Tren. And for god sakes stay away from MENT.
Reactions: Lord TrennerI was considering MENT at 50 per week in a cutting cycle with 10 mg injections, why you say i'm better staying away, have you noticed any sides by using it?
Going off the top of my head I believe it is 1900:700 Anabolic to Androgenic ratio, but probably higher on the left side (anabolic).
A dear friend of mine has cycled on and off things monitoring all blood markers, using medications where ancillaries didn't work, and was on top of health trying to stay safe. He committed to a blood work program every 4 weeks. He started at the dose you mentioned 50mg/week split across the week. Before he could get his 2nd bloodwork done after baseline both of his kidneys had entered stage 2 failure that fast.
The Tren Blend (Prop, Cyp, Hex 1:1:1 I believe) is personally my favorite because I worked out how to stay as safe as possible (stacked with Primo E and Test E).
After this run I will probably stick with NPP instead of Tren because of my age (closing in on 40).
You can run NPP longer, it's safer, and over the cycle you can make the same gains if all is dialed in (though it will take longer).
I won't say MENT doesn't work because it does, but it's at such a high toxicity level the trade off for time vs speed to size isn't something I could personally recommend. It was on my radar, I was tip toeing around it, but my friend went full on kidney failure so fast he would have needed weekly bloodwork to catch it soon enough.
Pick a DHT, a 19nor, and Testosterone as a base and run with that would be my recommendations, and give it time vs rushing it.
I wish you all the best brother!
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Do us a solid, us as in the community that wants to get big as you but keep us all safe. Get this 1-2 weeks beforehand, pin just 25 (you can always titrate up) a week for 2-3 weeks max, then repeat the blood work:
Testosterone (Total/Free), Estradiol, FSH, LH, SHBG, Prolactin, PSA (Prostate-Specific Antigen), ALT, AST, ALP, Bilirubin, GGT, Creatinine, BUN (Urea), eGFR, Electrolytes (Sodium, Potassium), Complete Blood Count (CBC including Hemoglobin, Hematocrit, RBC, WBC, Platelets), Lipid Profile (Total Cholesterol, HDL, LDL, Triglycerides), Fasting Glucose, Insulin, Cortisol, TSH, Free T4, Free T3.
This way you might be blessed and can handle it. If not, you can bail more safely and rotate into something safer.
Reactions: Falcon and Lord TrennerHowever, I do ask you type them and not take a picture (for privacy purposes). I love pouring over markers and extrapulating the findings while including the cycle stack (I do not have a PhD or Doctorates, so my response would 100% be solely based on what I have read, papers I have reviewed, and anecdotal conclusions. Always consult a doctor vs me).
Stay strong my friend
Caber 0.5 mg E3D for prolactin, Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD for estrogen (assuming test is 500mg+ per week), Telimsartan to control blood pressure, NAC + TUDCA daily for organ support, and raloxifene on hand if nipples get sensitive.
But I would highly recommend running blood work. If this is your first time at those levels this will be very independent on the person on how they respond and what sides pop up.
Monitor closely any sides and be ready to adjust / get any ancillaries immediately if something arises. Its hard to predict all variables at this dose.
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I've been taking test alongside Trenbolone (yes I've tried also Trenbolone as a standalone and it gave me nightmares side effects), since combining the two compounds my mood is a lot more stable and my strength goes up week by week!
Also I'm taking anastrazole to reduce my high ES at 2mg per week (I don't need any more because I'm not a high aromatizer) and Caberogline at 0,25 mg per week and let me tell you, Caberogline is almost essential if not a stable with a 19nor compound cycle, it raised my mood,libido,lowered water retention, killed random cravings,improved cardio and most important of all it decreased a lot my serum prolactin levels (went from 63ng/dL to 18ng/dL!!!) those are the ancillaries I'm finding very useful with my current cycle.
If you know any other compound I should be taking to manage sleep problems let me know down here I'll wait your opinions