First Cycle Planning

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MLX said:
Building dense, functional muscle with low body fat
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What is functional muscle? I'm just kidding, it's just a stupid expression. Just say your training is oriented towards mma.
MLX said:
Testosterone Enanthate – 250 mg/week
Split into 3 microdoses per week (e.g. Mon/Wed/Fri)
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I really suggest you to just inject 35mg (0.12cc) of test every other day. It's very easy with insulin pins.
MLX said:
Test E to establish a strong anabolic base and support CNS recovery, muscle density, and training volume.
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Just a pet peeve with these types of expressions. Anabolic base? Muscle density? What is that?
MLX said:
If anyone has input, advice, or suggestions for how to structure the next phases (e.g. adding Masteron,
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Look at mast as a pure anabolic: it doesn't aromatise, 5-alpha reduce or do any other bullshit. When you nail your test dose and then stop progressing (or need more anabolics to keep up with training demand), add masteron (account for the time for masteron to saturate, in case of enanthate, 3 to 4 weeks). Any drug can be used as a hardening agent (I hate this expression), if you're lean enough and control your e2 and diet.
 
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I get what you mean Im not trying to sound smart. I just want to achieve better recovery, keep training hard, and build solid muscle without getting fat or bloated. That’s all.

Thanks for the info!

I thought Masteron (Drostanolone) mainly helps with hardness and muscle fiber density, that’s why I mentioned it. But I appreciate the clarification

I’m still learning😅
 
MLX said:
I’m currently preparing for MMA competition with a clear focus on:


  • Structured high-intensity training
  • Fast recovery between sessions
  • Building dense, functional muscle with low body fat

In the last 6 months, I naturally cut down from 83 kg at 19% body fat (January) to 81 kg at 8%, while maintaining and even building noticeable lean muscle mass.


For injury prevention and faster tissue repair, I’m currently running BPC-157 and TB-500.



Current Cycle Plan – Phase 1 (12 Weeks):


  • Testosterone Enanthate – 250 mg/week
    Split into 3 microdoses per week (e.g. Mon/Wed/Fri)
    Product: Testos 250 mg/ml – 10 ml vial

I’m keeping it basic and clean for now – no orals, no AI unless needed, just Test E to establish a strong anabolic base and support CNS recovery, muscle density, and training volume.


I also have:


  • Drostargos – Drostanolone Enanthate 200 mg/ml – 10 ml vial

But I’m saving Masteron for a later phase, either as a hardening agent or to complement Test E once I plateau or cut again.



Open to Suggestions:


If anyone has input, advice, or suggestions for how to structure the next phases (e.g. adding Masteron, deload strategies, PCT, or optimizing for MMA-specific performance), I’d really appreciate your feedback!
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sounds interesting, as I said I dont have any knowledge about PED use inn MMA. Exited to see your results then :)
 
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Bigpat said:
Jen chci dodat k tomu, co už bylo řečeno:

Vždy je možné zvolit si pluk s plavbou a výbuchem v závislosti na dlouhodobých cílech a záměrech.

Pokud plánujete v příštích 6 měsících znovu začít s užíváním PCT, chci říct, že pravděpodobně nemá moc smysl.
Podle mého názoru je to obvykle něco vyhrazeno pro trvalé ukončení těhotenství nebo pro situace, kdy neplánujete absolvovat více než jeden cyklus ročně.
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MLX said:
I’m currently preparing for MMA competition with a clear focus on:


  • Structured high-intensity training
  • Fast recovery between sessions
  • Building dense, functional muscle with low body fat

In the last 6 months, I naturally cut down from 83 kg at 19% body fat (January) to 81 kg at 8%, while maintaining and even building noticeable lean muscle mass.


For injury prevention and faster tissue repair, I’m currently running BPC-157 and TB-500.



Current Cycle Plan – Phase 1 (12 Weeks):


  • Testosterone Enanthate – 250 mg/week
    Split into 3 microdoses per week (e.g. Mon/Wed/Fri)
    Product: Testos 250 mg/ml – 10 ml vial

I’m keeping it basic and clean for now – no orals, no AI unless needed, just Test E to establish a strong anabolic base and support CNS recovery, muscle density, and training volume.


I also have:


  • Drostargos – Drostanolone Enanthate 200 mg/ml – 10 ml vial

But I’m saving Masteron for a later phase, either as a hardening agent or to complement Test E once I plateau or cut again.



Open to Suggestions:


If anyone has input, advice, or suggestions for how to structure the next phases (e.g. adding Masteron, deload strategies, PCT, or optimizing for MMA-specific performance), I’d really appreciate your feedback!
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For your goal, 250-300mg testo is enough. if you take more, it won't be beneficial. In injectable form, you can add a little boldo (150-200mg) if you aromatise a lot and to make a few red blood cells. For performance/recovery, the EPO effect is by far the most effective.
For other injectables I don't see any benefits for you if it's only for MMA

For peptides gh/tb/bpc it's also great.

GW501516 and INJECTABLE SR9009 are also great for endurance
Lcarnitine too

Maybe, if you want, an oral at the end of the preparation like winstrol (with tb/bpc) or halotestin 😈
 
Question:

If I run 12 weeks blast, then 12 weeks cruise, followed by another 12-week blast, and then go into a full PCT

what are the realistic chances that my natural testosterone production (HPTA) fully recovers?

I’m 23, natural test levels are high (800 ng/dL total / 32 pg/mL free), and body fat is around 8%. This would be my first exposure to AAS.


I’m aware suppression is guaranteed, but I want honest input on whether full recovery is likely, or if there’s a real risk I’ll end up permanently at 10–20% of my original levels, even with a proper PCT (Clomid, Nolva, possibly HCG depending on bloodwork).


Has anyone here done a similar protocol — and actually recovered to full natural levels afterwards?
 
MLX said:
Question:

If I run 12 weeks blast, then 12 weeks cruise, followed by another 12-week blast, and then go into a full PCT

what are the realistic chances that my natural testosterone production (HPTA) fully recovers?

I’m 23, natural test levels are high (800 ng/dL total / 32 pg/mL free), and body fat is around 8%. This would be my first exposure to AAS.


I’m aware suppression is guaranteed, but I want honest input on whether full recovery is likely, or if there’s a real risk I’ll end up permanently at 10–20% of my original levels, even with a proper PCT (Clomid, Nolva, possibly HCG depending on bloodwork).


Has anyone here done a similar protocol — and actually recovered to full natural levels afterwards?
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The PCT protocol is quite universal.

HCG during cycle + tamoxifene after the testosterone/steroids have left the body (mean enough half-life has passed that the effect on the HPTA axis is almost non-existent)

What is not universal is the ability to recover unfortunately.
Each person reacts differently. Some people without PCT protocol recover very well, while others with PCT... It ends in TRT for life.

Genetics, again !
 
SalvatoreCorvus said:
The PCT protocol is quite universal.

HCG during cycle + tamoxifene after the testosterone/steroids have left the body (mean enough half-life has passed that the effect on the HPTA axis is almost non-existent)

What is not universal is the ability to recover unfortunately.
Each person reacts differently. Some people without PCT protocol recover very well, while others with PCT... It ends in TRT for life.

Genetics, again !
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some guy said this to me what do you guys think about his msg
 

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MLX said:
some guy said this to me what do you guys think about his msg
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Mostly agree with him, even the fertility is relatively easy to recover if you know what you're doing and after using steroids for decades, the procedure just becomes very long and drawn out. Still, to minimise the chances of having a long and miserable PCT, HCG is very useful and maybe consider permanently cruising on test and HCG
 
MLX said:
some guy said this to me what do you guys think about his msg
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It is well, if you want to believe it and reassure yourself.

But I have seen more than ten people in 4 years (surely maybe 1000 blood tests observed) who have never seen their LH and FSH restart, despite heavy protocol with clomid/enclos/tamox/hcg/hmg

So it's not much. But it exists.

It is true that many recover. The majority of cases quite well. But the risk of having lower than your first natural levels... Is fucking real.

Just like becoming sterile. Yesterday I saw someone get cryptozoospermia (total absence of sperm) after two years of steroid use. Two years also used HCG throughout.
 
Looks solid. only pure mma or other combat sports? What is your combat background? it could matter if you are more of a striker or grapper. What is your height? Watch your estrogen carefully specially before fights. It could make you bloated while you are trying to dehydrate. boldenone might be more interesting than drostanolone, while they both have anti estrogen activity, the increase in rbc with boldenone is a good bonus. Also heard great things about cardarine for endurance. I suggest you dont fuck with halotestin if you are not making money from this and even if you are really look into it and see if its worth for you. If you have the time just enjoy your cycle as it is. It looks like you are in already good shape, even 250mg of test a week will bring you amazing performance results.
 
i am more of a striker 1.84m middleweight light heavyweight.

I would never take tren oder Halo or other substances just test, primo, drost or like u said bold i am no fan of orals
 
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i am more of a striker 1.84m middleweight light heavyweight.

I would never take tren oder Halo or other substances just test, primo, drost or like u said bold i am no fan of orals
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First i want to make clear that you should just stick with test for now to "find your base". Bolde is nice for combat performance but word on the street is that some people feel kinda depressed with it. Primo i would probably only use as an aromataze inhibitor and i didnt want to use boldenone in the first place. Drost doesnt really make sense for your case in my opinion. It has some anti estrogenic activity but it does not inhibit aromataze so would only be for more anabolism. This make bolde probably the best choice to combo with test. Improves strength, cardio and inhibits aromataze. Nandrolone also helps "lubricates" the joints, but can make you retain more water and 19nor are extremely supressive if you are worried with that. Remember all these are "off season" drugs. Very long esters take months to clear from your system.
 
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