Planning a first cycle with 250–400 mg/week Test E, split 2–3×/week. Lean base (84 kg at 9.5% BF), training 2× daily (weights + MMA), nutrition and recovery fully in check. All bloodwork, EKG, and health markers are optimal.
PCT options secured (Enclomiphene + Toremifene), also familiar with HCG use – still undecided whether to include it during cycle or only in PCT. AIs (Arimidin, Exemestane) are on hand but plan is to stay off unless symptoms show.
Considering adding either Primo (400–500 mg) or Mast E mid-cycle for stability and estrogen control, or possibly switching to Test Prop at the end. Open to input on compound choice, timing, and what actually adds value in a controlled first cycle.
Any suggestions to tighten the plan and make the most of it are appreciated
Please feel free to correct me and to help me
PCT options secured (Enclomiphene + Toremifene), also familiar with HCG use – still undecided whether to include it during cycle or only in PCT. AIs (Arimidin, Exemestane) are on hand but plan is to stay off unless symptoms show.
Considering adding either Primo (400–500 mg) or Mast E mid-cycle for stability and estrogen control, or possibly switching to Test Prop at the end. Open to input on compound choice, timing, and what actually adds value in a controlled first cycle.
Any suggestions to tighten the plan and make the most of it are appreciated
Please feel free to correct me and to help me
Testosterone. That's it. No mast no primo NO 1GR OF PEDS...
Stop trying to make everything complicated and stop trying to make a cycle from someone with experience.
You have to learn how to manage the side effects and estrogen.
And starting with Testosterone E and then switching at thè end with Test P is stupid. What is the logical reason for this?
Reactions: dr. Doping and Bigpatcorrect me if im wrong
You should only introduce one new PED at a time to see how your body reacts. If you run, for example, Testosterone and Masteron together and experience side effects, how will you know which one caused them?
Since it’s your first cycle, you’ll blow up anyway with just Testosterone. Adding more PEDs won’t necessarily help you gain more muscle, it’ll just increase the risk of side effects.
As for PCT, wouldn’t cruising be a better option? I don’t know your goals, or whether you’re planning to run another cycle later, but think about it — if you do a PCT and then jump into another cycle shortly after, you’ll just end up messing up your HPTA for nothing.
Reactions: SalvatoreCorvus and Deleted member 1146thanks
Reactions: KxnekiIt’s always an option to choose a cruise and blast regiment depending on long term goals and intentions.
If you plan of going back on cycle within the next 6 months, I wanna say there probably isn’t a whole lot of sense into doing PCT.
In my opinion that’s usually something reserved for permanent termination or for when you don’t plan to make more than one cycle a year.
Reactions: Deleted member 1146If this approach seems misguided, I’m open to feedback.
But with a PCT you can do that. Having to overcome the physical and mental suffering and the loss of the gains made.
So if your goal is just to experiment with recovery, just do a treatment for a pct afterwards. Unless you want to cook your organs after all?
I admit I have trouble understanding your approach.
Reactions: Kxneki- Cycle: 14 weeks of Testosterone Enanthate at 400mg/week
- Support: HCG at 250 IU 2–3×/week during the cycle (not during PCT) to maintain testicular function
- Post-cycle:
- Decision: I’ll decide based on bloodwork and how my body responds
- Goal: Minimize long-term suppression while gaining lean tissue and preserving testicular health
I’m open to feedback and adjustments if anything seems off.→ I might cruise on 150 mg/week
→ Or I might come completely off and run a full PCT (Enclomiphene + Nolvadex for 4 weeks), followed by 4–6 months off
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I approve for a first cycle. You could even extend beyond 14 weeks depending on your blood and your physical condition (please start very lean and don't get too fat).
Or adjust the dose at some point.
Also have an AI (exemestan or aimidex) on hand in case 0% of people end up needing it)
Reactions: KxnekiUse it on cycle, it can't be used as actual PCT since it supresses natural Lh and FSH production. 500ius 2 or 3 times per week will do wonders, especially for your psyche. Take it from me, I raw dogged one year of blasting and cruising without HCG and now that I use it, I'm never going back.
i already bought enought vials of test e and only 2 vials of test p
Appreciate the HCG tip too, will definitely run it on-cycle like you said (probably 500 IU 2–3x/week). Makes sense to stay ahead of suppression.
Reactions: dr. DopingIn the last 6 months, I naturally cut down from 83 kg at 19% body fat (January) to 81 kg at 8%, while maintaining and even building noticeable lean muscle mass.
For injury prevention and faster tissue repair, I’m currently running BPC-157 and TB-500.
Current Cycle Plan – Phase 1 (12 Weeks):
Split into 3 microdoses per week (e.g. Mon/Wed/Fri)
Product: Testos 250 mg/ml – 10 ml vial
I’m keeping it basic and clean for now – no orals, no AI unless needed, just Test E to establish a strong anabolic base and support CNS recovery, muscle density, and training volume.
I also have:
But I’m saving Masteron for a later phase, either as a hardening agent or to complement Test E once I plateau or cut again.
Open to Suggestions:
If anyone has input, advice, or suggestions for how to structure the next phases (e.g. adding Masteron, deload strategies, PCT, or optimizing for MMA-specific performance), I’d really appreciate your feedback!
Originally planned to run 400 mg Test E/week, but decided to keep it moderate. I’ll start with 250 mg/week, maybe even drop to 200 mg depending on how my body reacts.
I’ve got all support supps, PCT, AIs, and HCG ready.
Starting HCG at 250 IU 2×/week from week 2 to stay safe and maintain function.
Trying to keep it clean, effective, and side-effect-free.